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Does anybody have complete results of these two (2) USRC Regionals ????

Any postings would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Volker,
I do know a Breeding of your's took Youth Siegerin.
She was very nice and the owner was a nice guy as well.
Congratulations to you and his Owner!

Mimi

Hi Volker,

All I have is for the NE Regionals, Just the winners, not complete results:

2010 NE Regional Sieger - Redwood Krest's Fausto
2010 NE Regional Siegerin- Drybrucke's Alysheba
2010 NE Regional Select Male - Achilles vom Deutschen Erbe
2010 NE Regional Select Female - Ginny vom Schwarzen Hammer

BST - Both PASSING
Ginny vom Schwarzen Hammer
Godzilla vom Wesburg

and I can add:
9-12 mo female
VP-2 Brixius vom Wilynholz

I'd love to see the full results too if anyone has them.

Thanks,

Unfortunately we left early so I didn't get the full results either.. just out of curiousity, did they mention a time frame for when they were hoping to mail the critiques for the NE show?

Volker,

..patience...patience my friend as I think they need a couple weeks or months before anyone outside the loop is able to know. Maybe the huge turnouts have slowed down getting results out?

I don't think Bogdan visits this site Volker but I could be wrong.

Steve

There is no need for Bogdan when the RD's of each regional are on this board. It is no wonder why these events had low entry. It to me is a direct reflection of the conduct and complete LACK of accountability by some of the EB members. Over the past 1-2 years a number of rules were passed which to me showed little respect for the rest of the membership, not to mention showing that when people are EB members conduct & accountability are not required by all. I am guessing the upcoming AIRK show will top the past USRC Nat Sieger to show exactly that change is needed from the club and within a good portion of the EB. The USRC needs people who follow rules, insist on others who follow rules, and communicate to the membership.

So how about some "un-official" results for both these events?

I know Kara von Scosher was V-2 in the Open class females in the SE Reg. event. Couldn't tell ya about any results from NE Reg., other than what i have sen on this forum.

Ron,

Why would the RD be responsible for posting results on this forum. Matter of fact if you are a rules man as you so say then even you must understand no results are valid until the AOR receives and records them. So whats your problem?

Steve

Where did I say it was a rule for RD's to post results? What I did say if you can read properly was both the NE and SE RD are on this board. So I do not see why they cannot assist in providing information that many would really appreciate. Yet again you are showing in my opinion the problems with the NE region and the USRC...why not communicate and help rather that say there is no rule forcing you. Really do we need to go down the road of following rules? That one is completely laughable!

Again, "unofficial" results can be provided. Hopefully these things get recorded in time as we wouldn't want to see the AOR have to fine themselves again now would we? No wonder the ARV national also smoked the USRC Sieger Nationals. You are doing a bang up job and a big contributor in my opinion on the decline. The writing is on the wall but seems no one wants to pay attention to it.

Thanks for the encouragement Ron. What I find amusing is you are someone that contributes ZERO to any show or trial within the USRC. However your opinions are very detailed and always negative. Again there are three people in this world Ron, those that make things happen, those that watch things happen and those that wondered what happened. Which do you consider yourself Ron?

Steven,

Deflect, spin, and deflect again....how about doing some communication and post results? I speak about rules and conduct, and it just so happens that many times you seem to be somehow connected to a number of those issues now don't you?

Funny when I entered and trialed at the CT club, YOU were not there. When I have shown at the CT club again, YOU were not there. I have supported a number of events with entries, and also have provided photography for events from club level to national that the USRC has used in its magazine. Ah...I see so it comes down to money, or who can bring in the money for the USRC. It is no wonder why you are allowed to conduct yourself as you do. This is the big problem with the USRC. I pay my USRC dues and am a member in good standing and as such have the right to question those that are elected. I have the right to be involved and care about the organization contrary to your slam about how much money I have to spend to get that right!! They are ignoring the problems and protecting the few that put on $ productive shows. Well, notice the entries continue to go down? Money would come back when conduct, accountability and integrity is restored in my opinion. You need to be addressed in my opinion.

Hmm, have you not slandered ? Lied ? Supported a club that took money from members? Violated USRC breeding rules while they were in place? Voted on the very ballot that would exonerate you? Supported filing misleading information against me? Back those that have been involved in submitting fraudulent statements to Sportsmans? Did you not initially refuse to pay the fine levied against you for a breeding issue stating something about your attorney advised against it? You play games on forums rather than just provide information or answers. You in my opinion have been allowed to be out of control.

I think everyone should see what goes on, on the EB as I would bet your conduct would be quite interesting over the time you have been on there.

Oh, sorry I did not give you credit for jumping on a bike right before two AD's...my bad. You spend money which to me seems to fuel an ego that is way out of control. Isn't it time to move on to a new hobby? You used to be a decent guy in my opinion but that was years ago and you held no position of power.

So how about results that people want? The SE RD could provide something too since it was his club, and he had no problem finding time to get on this forum asking for entries prior to the show.

Yep ...

Amazing. Volker asked about results last Tuesday and still nothing at all. Does the SE RD communicate at all? It seems like now that the show is over follow up is not important. I am not surprised with not hearing anything from the NE RD when I compare it to past actions. A bit of talk back and forth in the beginning but when it comes time to give more info he drops the ball and disappears from my experience with him. Just as when I asked questions regarding the conduct of the AOR...no respond or replies to the important questions. Unlike the USRC board the president cannot step in here to censor & just violate forum rules and suspend so these people can be protected from questions.

Maybe these two RD's do not have an interest in providing information or responding? Maybe the entries are flowing so well in the SE & NE it is not important to spend time reaching out and helping those who ask questions about events they preside over.

I have to say the competition is heating up....who is going to win?

Will it be the SE RD Bryan Vice providing info and results on his regional event? Or will it be the pride of the NE (oops had a cough in my throat), RD Steven Canuso to make a move to win it all? The SE RD is clearly lagging further behind with that event behind over prior to the NE one. Still, looks like a barn burner to see which one will communicate and help out those inquiring!

Maybe it could end as a draw & both will come out with information on these two events, only time will tell !

This is exactly one of the reasons ,,,, I'll want attend the event at that location, or within that club ever again! I must say that Jeremy and the SMWRK has by far hosted the best Usrc events that I have been to in the last two years! Jus my opinion, and of course I haven't been to all the usrc events but I'll speak on the ones i have been to

There are plenty of good people in both the NE and SE region and I can't and won't lay blame on a entire club for what one or two people are responsible for but it does hurt those clubs as a whole. I just figure that if someone can take the time to come to this site or any other and tell you about a show and ask for entries, they should be able to come back and give some results. That isn't a lot to ask ... seriously

Thomas & Andy, you both are exactly right.

When people have time (especially the RD's who are in the club) to post show events reaching out to those on various forums, it makes no sense to not post results too. It is a great way for others who missed to see a snapshot of the event and even more so remember that club and try to attend next time around. Rather than to make a list that people do not want to attend.

Looks like we still do not have a winner yet as both RD's hopefully are working to get information so they can finally communicate with many of the people who do support USRC events. Wonder if this one will come down to the wire, as Terrel Owens likes to say "get your popcorn ready!".

Any bets going down? Wonder if Vegas knows about this and what the odds might be on who will be first to step up!

Now we are at Saturday with still nothing. Is this arrogance or incompetence? Looks like neither RD is winning, so what does that make them?

I guess it is hard to do things to show how each event went with a booming USRC. Exactly when will some people get it and act as they should for their position? I could also be wrong and just needing to extend more time for this little competition as both could be out training their dogs in preparation for the upcoming USRC SchH Nats. If so, I do apologize for not giving enough time.

Well, now 12 days past the last post. Still no results. I thought maybe if nothing was said then maybe someone would bother to do their job and communicate with members. So if you question the NE RD Mr. Canuso you get no answers, and if you sit back and wait, well....it seems he works just as a few others in the EB and nothing is addressed. Certainly nothing publicly. Lack of communication and incompetence is what it looks like to me .

Yet, on the USRC forum this RD blames me directly for the problems of the USRC rather than addressing issue after issue that happens. Apparently to this RD discussion what the membership finds out what is going on is more damaging than the actions that are brought to light! He also feels that I am the cause for clubs like Pocono that will have problems because of my discussion about the fact they took money from quite a number of people, later refused them into the club since they wanted to be active in the club, then violated their own bylaws and refused to return all the money!!! Chrissy and Joe Kovacs had no right to do this even within their own bylaws. Mr. Canuso is ok with this it seems never publicly having one problem, while backing, endorsing, and even trying to submit charges in support of them against me.

It is insulting to everyone to think words alone are the problem. The sad part is the words are merely discussion, or commentary of actions by clubs or elected members who are supposed to set the example of proper conduct. It comes down to conduct and the examples continue to pile and all I see is diversionary tactics to avoid these issues.

I think we should just call SW the winner since I had my results up within hours of our Regional event

they arn't puttting results up because their are no results to put up......nobody goes to those shows

Not cool Tommy. No matter what venue you support or decide to attend, you should appreciate the work that goes into those shows. It takes weeks of preparation and very long hours to produce a show. It takes alot of personal funds as well. Some are more successful then others but all clubs deserve respect just for the fact they step up to the plate and give you and others the opportunity to compete and show your dogs to the judges. JMHO

Its not meant as offensive to anyone involved in putting on shows!! it was just meant as a funny remark as to why its taking so long to post results....

Normally the folks hosting the show will post the results. However I posted already that Bogdan doesn't attend this forum. So we all just have to wait until the results are posted on the USRC site. Then we can copy and paste to here. I am concerned for some of the clubs and their entry's. Soon we will loose more clubs to the economy and lack of interest at their shows. This is the reason I responded to you.

I just emailed Bogdan and he said the results were submitted to the USRC AoR about 3 weeks ago. So until they are processed, they cannot be posted.

USRC has always posted results as quickly as possible. That's why the results page contains the following disclaimer:

"All results posted to the USRC website shall be considered unoffical until approved by the Administrator of Records and printed in the USRC Magazine. If results are not posted, results have not been received by the Web Committee. If you are an official of a club whose results have not been posted, please submit them to webmaster@usrconline.org"

Liz

Since Bogdan doesn't get on the forum, I'll forward your message to him.

Thanks!

Lol about the economy affecting the show.. most clubs are doing good just not the USRC.... and most people would not attend the Conn show like me after the last show was in the chicken slaughter house... with the dust flying around.... and Wayne killing us all.....

Wake up Troy that was three years ago. Conn. has had about four shows since.

Willie,,,,, like a rottie we never forget....... 3 years 5 years 2 months a bad experience is a bad experience..... plus the fact it was like the spark show 5 months before same judge...... so where is the new good feeling experience at????? 7 hr trip to hear what I heard tin April.... hotel ... kids on board.... dining out......

The USRC seems to have one great show a year now and that is SPARK... all then other shows do not even have enough dogs entered......

You forgot the "USRC" has another coast. SCRC had over 100 dogs entered at our Regional. BARK did really well too for their select show. IERC has historically pulled upwards of 100 dogs for their events as well.

Troy -

How many people do you think had a worse time at that CT show than me ?

I hold nothing against anyone in that club. One moron called Wayne and started all that crap and it was no fault of that club. That indoor buildng wasn't perfect but they were trying to get people out of the cold and believe me it can get pretty cold that time of year up here. If it was outdoors and was 38 degrees outside and snowing people would have complained about that too so I guess it was a no win. I have been back to shows in CT since and I have had a good time. As far as the same judge goes, sure he had just judged another show but he was better than having no judge at all. That club took that show at the last minute and maybe they shouldn't have done it at all. It is my understanding that they were supposed to have the regional show to begin with but somehow lost the show to the Devlin's club who later cancelled. If that was the case they should have told USRC to stick the show up their azz. Instead they took on the show and probably lost their shirt.

The economy has a lot to do with how these shows turn out right now. Most shows are within one or two months of each other and some people can't afford to attend all of them. Entry fees have a lot to do with it too. USRC charging $60 or $65 for a dog and $50 for puppies when AIRK is charging $50 for dogs and $40 for pups and they give you a break when you have multiple entries. Entry fees are not a big deal when you show one or two dogs but quite a few people show five or six dogs and sometimes more than that. Those are the people who go where they will save money. It does matter in this economy

Still more do nothing from the NE RD. Keep passing the buck sadly. Leslie said the results were sent to the AOR, so the NERD would also have them available. Leslie it is a complete crock to say results cannot be posted. This is exactly why people laugh at the USRC, they act like there are rules, but who doesn't follow them...those that are leading the USRC. Results can be posted as "unofficial", everyone knows that. It makes it seem like the RD's do not care to communicate, and as the representatives of the USRC it looks like the USRC does not care that much. That is the signal I get from it all. Everyone understands Bogdan is not on here...so what. The NE RD is on here. The AOR is on here, and most of the USRC EB....yet nothing but sitting around till the website is updated and claims that nothing can be done till official. If the AOR getting the job done, or do they have to yet again fine themselves which is ridiculously funny! It is a two way street, and it seems the USRC is doing the my way or the highway one lane super express attitude...not cool at all in my opinion. So much could be improved if just some showed they cared and communicated.

Bogdan always sent results to the webmaster in a timely fashion when I was updating the USRC site.

Liz

Andy, i have nothing bad to say about the people or the club at CONN.. when we went and were there, the whole show was a bust, from the time of the show starting like 4 hours late, would have been fine outside that day... as we were all out there any way in the not so cold of a day.... but why pay money again to see the same judge... And I won first place with my male under Wayne... But did not need to boost my ego to show to him again... And I am sure Wayne is not the only Judge in the U.S. to show to him. though maybe the only one that the USRC would show to. Who honestly knows... No big deal....... Point of it is no big deal for any one to go to the show...

Economy... please ... if you can not afford to show for an extra 10.00 than maybe dogs shows are not for some people... So I do not believe it! since the AIRK shows are only a few dollars less then USRC. and have high numbers even out of the great North East Region where there are many rottie people.... look at the NERF show... Same people there.....

really can not see a reason for a battle here.

Andy,
I'm not sure where you got that understanding. As far as HVRSK had known, we put in for and received the NE Regionals. We were never 'informed' that the Conn club or any other club in the Region was also asking for it. So, please don't say that the Conn club 'lost the show' to the 'Devlin's club'...b/c the 'Devlin's club' knew nothing of the sought.

FYI - we have NEVER cancelled a show in all the years our club has been around. We have always put on excellent events and made people want to come back each year. Unfortunately, Andy and I are a very large part of organizing these events and we opted to cancel late in the game b/c my mother had been diagnosed with Stage III cancer in July. Our main focus has been her and her chemo treatments. The NE Regionals was not in the top 100 things to worry about at this point in time. The Conn club was gracious enough to step up and I thank them for that.

....I just wanted to set the record straight - that as far as we knew - we were never in a bidding war for the Regionals with ANY other club in our region.

Darlene - I don't care that you cancelled the show and I was told why you did. That was your business and I left it your business. I can however GUARANTEE that Bogdan asked everyone at the show this past spring if we would all be coming back in the fall for the NE Regional show. I AM NOT the only person who was asked

At some point they thought they had the show. Two weeks later mr Steve came right on here with his big anouncment that your club was going to put on the show. My first thought was .... hmmmmm, USRC must have gotten pissed that he was splitting his time with a AIRK club. That would not surprise me or anyone else. We know how things work in the USRC and the North East especially I'll just leave it at that

I have not heard anything else about your mom but I hope she is doing well !

As Andy said, which I also heard, and know others also told that they were initially hosting the Regionals...then the ever communicative NE RD just a few days later come onto this forum to announce HVRSK was hosting it. Nothing is surprising in this region.

Still, we have an event that the NE RD can get the results for, and chooses to avoid helping out rather than just getting results. This kind of attitude and disrespect in my opinion is not helping the USRC when it could have easily been a stepping stone in the right direction.

Darlene,

You are correct. HVRSK was the only club that requested the Northeast Regional Show for 2010 and was approved. Sadly because of circumstances beyond your control the show was cancelled. At that time I had two choices. One was to have a show hosted by David York's club or see if Rotts of CT was interested since they already had a BST and select show approved with Andreas. As usual Bogdan stepped up to the plate and held the show in emergency situation. He did a great job and deserves alot of credit for helping the region out.

As for 2011, currently SPARK has the regional. I talked to all clubs at this past Nationals and we agreed Judge Werner Walter deserved to pick a Sieger/Siegerin siince he has not been to the US in many years and he was the Past Breed Warden of the ADRK. Hopefully we will have a full venue based on his expert opinion and experience.

I believe the USRC is committed to bringing the best judges from around the world to our venue and offering opinions regarding all participants dogs. SOmetimes things don't always work out but we all must support these local clubs because without your support there won't be anymore shows or less shows at the very least. Hope to see everyone next year at the shows in the northeast.

Steve

ROn,

I guess you didn't read my last two posts so I will try one more time so you understand. I don't have the results and Bogdan doesn't visit this website. As for Samantha I do NOT get involved in her business as AOR. Samantha processes the shows and trials and forwards the results to the proper individuals as Liz stated. So if you want the results from the show feel free to call Bogdan.

Steve, I think after this many weeks, then you as RD should have gotten SOMEONE to post unofficial results SOMEWHERE on SOME forum. It's not a matter of you just getting involved in Samantha's business, I just think that you as RD should make sure that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE posts the unofficial results on SOME forum for all to see by now.

Steven,

Are you calling Bogdan a liar? I know, and others know what was told to us PRIOR to you coming out publicly and giving this to a different club. Rather than spin things away to an upcoming regional that at this point doesn't matter...how about communicating regarding this past regional event? You should have and need to make it your business to get the info from the AOR. For heavens sake she is in the same house as you and this is very accessible, and within your position to get this info. Why on earth do you constantly work harder to not do a good job for the best interest of the club and just protect yourself as it seems to me? This is about the RD's who do not communicate when they have the opportunity to improve relations....how about something decent for once instead of all this ridiculous BS? As a representative of the USRC your actions and even your comments reflect the organization. It looks like there is too much politics going on, and not enough care & respect to the membership, potential members, and those who attend events.

Although if it is to difficult for the NERD or AOR to help with results, maybe one or both might know something about a rumor about altered emails? Could be wrong but it may even be an issue related to the NE region & would be great if either happened to know anything about it.

Steven, you don't get it. You are not looking over the AOR's shoulder, you are asking for the information so you can assist and be a help to members, potential members, and those who love to see results. Last date of updated results on the USRC webpage I see is June 25,2010. Why is it so hard to be helpful? You could have provided info rather than so many excuses. If the AOR is up so late all these weekends, then why no results? Why did she fine herself? Are entries that large to cause all this back up?

You support what certainly looks like the complete violation of our Bylaws by the President doing his own thing and appointing Dan Williams as RD and allowing him on the Executive Board which is another Bylaw violation as it appears to me. You seem to me to protect your own interests as you push for dropping Sieger requirements.

Updating the USRC website will not improve the club imo, taking accountability and communicating will help much more....try it, and even you would improve your street credit.

Changing the Sieger requirements to try to compete with the independent clubs is a valiant effort to bring people back. It may help entries. Still, people do not forget about conduct which you are involved in a lot of.

What is the USRC going to do when they enforce the mandatory BST? What are they really doing about tails and the possibility of judges refusing to judge docked dogs. These are coming issue which affect many. Please help the everyone know how this can be addressed to improve things.

How about addressing the question about what you know about Altered emails within the USRC? Is there anything to this or is it nothing at all? Does this involve the AOR? Does it involve anyone else in the NE region? Are you involved in this in any way?

Tommy,

I wasn't comparing the USRC to the ADRK. What I said Tommy was the ADRK does NOT post their shows here on this forum. The ADRK has full time employees that handle all paperwork and their website, so the USRC could never be compared to this organization. As for the magazine I agree its just too much for anyone to handle as a volunteer. There are not many Jane's around or Darlene's who are willing to stay up 23hrs a day and work on a magazine.

Steve

Can I ask why the results need to be official before they can be posted ? Does it really matter to anyone ? I think people just want a " rough idea " of who won what when they were not able to go to the show. Official results maybe are not so official anyway. The last National show I was able to attend was here in NY and some of those results were maybe a little wrong. My dog was in open male and he did not place but he did get a V rating. In all, I'm pretty sure that there were seven of us out there with V rated dogs yet when the " official " results were posted the number jumped to twelve or more dogs

After the judge placed the dogs everyone left the ring and they called the last group back out there to get their number. A whole lot of people jumped back in the ring and had their number written down even though what they wanted was those last seven dogs. I remember telling the guy next to me that I thought all they wanted were the V rated dogs. He was one of the first to be sent out of the ring.

Nobody was hung from a cross or even questioned and I doubt very much anyone like Steve would be hung either for posting SOMETHING, even if it isn't 100 % correct. Just a quick run down is all most are asking for. If the shows had 200 entries I can understand all the time it would take to sit and type all that info out but these are not really big shows. I think that if people really cared about their club they would go out of their way to make people happy.

Andy,
Regarding the posting of results that have not yet been either sent from the hosting club, processed by the AOR, or posted by the web committee these are the rules in the USRC:

25. Results can be posted to the website, however, they must be posted as “unofficial results” until released by
the Administrator of Records.

Just my thoughts....
For posting the results, most people only care about the top four positions in each class. If you didn't want to post what every dog got for a rating thats fine but I would sure like to know who placed.

When I go to the restaurant I understand little things can slow down service, and simple mistakes on the order. Being ignored by the waiting staff is one thing, but then if the manager refuses to assist on something they can easily do, that is quite another. A nice menu, and appealing building only go so far. It comes down to quality and service. Continued poor service and/or the outright avoidance by management to help, and I would not bother going back and probably it would be a long time before I gave them another chance. That to me is exactly how this is. Poor service and avoidance/refusal to help out on something so simple. When the simple things are an issue, then that raises a red flag that probably there is more not right.

Come on guys, is it that hard as representatives of an organization to help & communicate? Take charge and say "it may take a few days but I am on that request & will make sure I provide this". Then follow through with your promise. Not excuses. I am sure that quick responses are made when people are asking where to send an entry or donation to though!

Ron, you are beating a dead horse,it won't go no where.Since Sept. 28th this topic has been open and still no results.Now if the former presidents or present president would ask for the unoffical results to be posted, you could bet good money that one certain follower would jump on the ban wagon and post the results.If you look at all the post made by the presidents of the USRC there is a trend that a blind man can see.

Andy,

As I stated prior I do NOT have the results. I wish I could help you out but I can't. The results that have already been posted is as much as I personally know. Have a great day!

Steve - You look like an ass ! If you think for a split second that you are gaining ANYBODYS respect you are seriously kidding yourself. You have a twist and turn for everything. People are asking you to do them a FAVOR. (Moderator removed content from this post in this segment because of an earlier request, and a board warning was issued)

IF YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE ASKING AND AS REGIONAL DIRECTOR YOU DON'T MAKE IT A POINT TO PERSONALLY KNOW AFTER TWO MONTHS THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE ANYTHING AT ALL IN THE USRC, ESPECIALLY A REGIONAL DIRECTOR. YOU ARE ABOUT AS USEFUL AS A WORKING DOG WITH TWO BROKEN LEGS

I will have a great day but thanks for telling me to do so. Right back at ya !

The USRC has always been slow with putting on the results on there site, no matter what club host the show! The only way we do know is usually someone that was there fills a catalog out and post them as they are written in the catalog. Some may be right and some maybe wrong, but a least it's some results and it gives us all a lil clue of how the judge was and who placed where, personally, I do like the quicknest of the AIRK,ARV for posting there show results. And if having so many people with assigned jobs makes thing that much more difficult or slow, then maybe it's time to simplify somethings and be a member friendly club, without all the politics!!! JMHO

Thomas - If you want to see results from the show in CT you can go on the USRC site, they are posted. Still nothing from Kentucky though. I check the site because I have not been able to go to any shows and I'd like to keep up with whats going on. Steve is just a ball buster and I try to give it back

Steven your conduct as an RD is pathetic and a complete embarrassment towards the USRC. The President should have stepping in long ago to get this rectified or asked you to step up and help. This was a chance for good relations and communication. Grade...F & that includes giving you a few points for being able to sign your name correctly. Other than voting to protect yourself from being suspended for 3 yrs in that breeding issue, what do you do?

Now, I was just made aware of this and since the NE RD has refused to help out which he could have easily done. I will help put part of this to rest and do job the RD couldn't do. This is only for the NE Regionals. I for the life of me do not understand how the SE RD who is a member of the club hosting their regionals cannot provide the results that they have, but bet they will have no problem coming on here in the future asking for entries to their next event!

Follow this link and it will have an area at the bottom of the middle of the screen to view the results via adobe. Thank goodness that this was not life or death or we would be in trouble!

http://www.ctrottweilerclub.org/default ... bb12a3e694

If anyone looks at the website above I would just like to clarify that Ginny the BST dog is owned by me and she is a female and not a male.Thanks

WOW!!! is that correct 15 youth and 15 adults for a grand total of 30 dogs at a NE Regional???
WHAT AN EMBARRASSMENT FOR THE NORTH EAST!!!

maybe its time we bring back and incorporate USRC in CALIFORNIA again !!!

Hi Steve Canuso, being fairly new to breed clubs and working dog clubs I can not understand why the unoffical results were not posted prior to the link from the host club?

Did the USRC not get the information from the host club? What am I missing here?

Thank you,
Doug

Unfortunately members have to step up to do things. Just like with the concerns whether bylaws were violated and what powers the President truly has, it has been pushed by an EB member that it is the job of those from the General membership to get the answer. Same with various violations, the members need to do everything if they want something looked into. It is sad to see entries so low, especially when other organizations pull higher entries. Its time to realize the little pond is even smaller, but if the right steps were taken movement could be made in positive ways. I told the President back in August on the phone that communication to the members and involving them is the first step. Sadly we can see with this situation here that has not trickled down. Maybe someone can find SE Regional results as I don't know if I am up to doing more than one regional directors job even though this was quite simple to provide...

The USRC results page finally has the NE Regional results up. Go figure. With all the waiting for things to be proper and correct, it appears the AOR did not get the sex of Willie's outstanding female Ginny correct either. Not sure if this is the only thing or if there are other slight mistakes. This is kind of BS holding off results only to not be all correct is exactly what makes other outside venues attractive.

All the debates and fighting what a waste of enery, and yet nobody bothered to put up the link with the reults, this is what this post is all about..... sometimes I really wonder about the future of the human race.

Thank you to whomever posted the results on the USRC web-page. Hopefully the results for the South East Regionals can be made available soon.

http://www.usrconline.org/archive/2010/RCOC%2009-10%20Show%20Results.pdf

Volker,

The discussion opened up light on a number things, including the conduct and lack of action by both RD's. They were both given an equal opportunity to help, and show why there as elected officials are so special. It made it very apparent who is and isn't going to go out of their way to help. Sad, but still clarifies what many I am sure already knew.

I posted results that at least had some info, and now the USRC finally decided to get a little bit involved. The SE region should have been the easiest to obtain given the RD is also part of the hosting event club.

I wish we could close our eyes, and then open them to good things. I believe power corrupts and you just have to look to see who has the power & what they are really doing with it.

This is the 1st time i have been on this forum in a long, long time.
Looking at the NE Results i see mistakes as well
Mimi